tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post6739412287862549051..comments2023-12-31T00:57:46.133-08:00Comments on New Leafs: 365 More Words into the VoidJasunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06645623536130682696noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-85864812367686932022012-04-18T19:10:16.309-07:002012-04-18T19:10:16.309-07:00Dark night of the soulDark night of the soulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-2655396754479537482012-04-18T10:54:19.868-07:002012-04-18T10:54:19.868-07:00'anyone who is serious about getting to the tr...'anyone who is serious about getting to the truth needs to read McKenna, and then decide if they are really serious or not.'<br /><br />How to gauge one's seriousness? For as long as there are desires which over-ride 'seriousness', then presumably one will fail in 'getting to the truth', but how to get rid of these inferior desires? - logically it would seem to be to seek to fulfill them as soon as possible and with full enthusiasm, so that one can then move on, as a shortcut to truth, which seems contrary to the mood of nihilism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-61671130186746184592012-04-17T16:15:31.021-07:002012-04-17T16:15:31.021-07:00Have you read The Psychopath's Bible by Christ...Have you read The Psychopath's Bible by Christopher Hyatt?<br />I am reading it again and again.<br />tulpa@youcantbehelped.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-75346469526471971342012-04-15T20:54:12.087-07:002012-04-15T20:54:12.087-07:00Oh and this is how it feels to chew 5 gum.Oh and this is <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091059/quotes?qt0306603" rel="nofollow">how it feels to chew 5 gum</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-28911184958210541492012-04-15T20:48:41.137-07:002012-04-15T20:48:41.137-07:00I RECKON (2+2) I could become enlightened (on the ...I RECKON (2+2) I could become enlightened (on the path, unless one doesn't realize <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf_OsStVpzs" rel="nofollow">what's happening</a>, there's really no need to get off) again (and draw the apocalypse closer by doing nothing of the sort), IF I didn't trouble my head about correcting people (defending my stance) and offending people with "the passion". (full stop ..... refusals)<br /><br />OHEY, a new paragraph, eventually it'll come to the-hell-with-this, leaving my subtle complex no other pathway than to enter in the house (to escape Sodom and Gomorrah of the abused mind) of the lord, to follow (real science now) an acute state of mind hosted by (a) spirit, bathed by tempting spirits [I've got pics. Mental clarity, and pick of the litter.] what do the window shopping for you, reel weird science, OHEY, what-do-you-know, bright new clothes! (exclamation mark steam train)<br /><br />(<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksvm7fovhJQ" rel="nofollow">How Much Is</a>) That Doggie <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nly-bfguf4k" rel="nofollow">in the window</a>?atypical hairless (powerless) apenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-32987031206328242682012-04-15T16:50:27.825-07:002012-04-15T16:50:27.825-07:00Human Race, obviously you don't know me, didn&...Human Race, obviously you don't know me, didn't read my testimonials about what the Dissolution Process is/looks like, and yet claim I have a "Belief System" which makes me feel "special". Good one! <br /><br /><br />If you think the Buddha in you is already enlightend, and there is nothing further to know, or experience, than rest on those laurels. There, you are already God, right?Theofiliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01672972031937849741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-65643608769189914632012-04-15T11:31:37.969-07:002012-04-15T11:31:37.969-07:00Well, I think Theofilia & Kephas are the ones ...Well, I think Theofilia & Kephas are the ones having the kneejerk response here, but feel free to project. And yes, there is no such thing as "enlightenment" only the concept of it, which no one seems to be able to agree upon anyway, but keep defending your Belief Systems by all means if it makes you feel special.The Human Racenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-30817847791497961292012-04-15T04:46:53.160-07:002012-04-15T04:46:53.160-07:00As far as I can make out the story told by the non...As far as I can make out the story told by the non-dual teachers is that something will happen in a person's life that turns them into a spiritual seeker, from then on his 'head is in the tiger's mouth', the person pursuits all kinds of spiritual practises, follows various gurus, tries everything to 'find God' or 'achieve enlightenment', they are the 'miserable seeker', they start pulling out their hair,giving up in exacerbation, and then the 'penny drops', they suddenly understand....and from then on they are never the same and are officially 'enlightened' and can teach and pontificate. The thing is, the 'penny dropping' event they describe often seems so subtle as if it were only a minor epiphany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-53839157145547124332012-04-15T01:04:09.746-07:002012-04-15T01:04:09.746-07:00I've yet to hear the logic for why an enlighte...I've yet to hear the logic for why an enlightened person wouldn't say they were enlightened - unless it's that there is no such thing as enlightened, which isn't really logic, as logically, one can only know if something does exist, not that it doesn't... (Try proving unicorns don't exist.)<br /><br />This kneejerk response seems similar to the scientism's dismissal of spiritism as quackery, based on a) inherent prejudice, and b) the evidence of a preponderance of actual quacks. It's 2 + 2 = 5 sort of logic: improbable claim plus lots of fake contenders leads to the (comfortable) conclusion that all claims must be fake, or "BS."Jasunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645623536130682696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-9798964065742525522012-04-14T16:49:07.060-07:002012-04-14T16:49:07.060-07:00This is the Voice of the Sacred Feminine, please p...This is the Voice of the Sacred Feminine, please pardon me for bargin' in again.<br />Hero,<br />when you directly experience in every firber of your being "I am Rapture's delightful abyss", you will know what "enlightenment" means.<br />Non-dual teachers don't know about this kind of 'enlightenment'.Theofiliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01672972031937849741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-290110891025063212012-04-14T14:21:44.634-07:002012-04-14T14:21:44.634-07:00"I'd say I aspire more torward mystical e..."I'd say I aspire more torward mystical experiences rather than 'enlightenment', although I'm not sure about the definition of either."<br /><br />If you don't know what it is, then how will you know when you've reached/attained it? Or if it's even something that's desirable to aspire to? People make up their own definitions, so how are we to gauge it? I think anyone who claims to be enlightened has bought their own BS.Hero Unmaskedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boFhHOjljs0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-37214820084149256612012-04-14T13:31:15.210-07:002012-04-14T13:31:15.210-07:00"is it like it seems there's no one there..."is it like it seems there's no one there within him or something?"<br /><br />Not at all - like there is another presence, of far greater depth and intensity, ferocity, and daunting authenticity. But it is more, or less than that - it's an experience of myself also - of being elsewhere - how to describe that? Uncharted depths, becoming known through increasing ripples on the surface of "me." <br /><br />If the false self is the dreamed, what is its experience as awakening approaches - and the dreamer begins to emerge into that space even as the dreamed like a reflection on the surface of the water, shimmers and breaks apart.<br /><br />That's why I said that mostly Dave is "just Dave," because I am seeing the image of Dave that is being projected into my dream state. Seeing the real Dave happens, can only happen, in tandem with awakening to/in my real self...Jasunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645623536130682696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-57337407935863224592012-04-14T11:45:04.132-07:002012-04-14T11:45:04.132-07:00I probably had a dig at your seriousness because i...I probably had a dig at your seriousness because it's something I question about myself and my own motivations. <br />I've followed plenty of non-dual teachers in the past, I do wonder about the notion that enlightenment is something that happens instantly, overnight, although all the non-dual teachers seem to teach that it does, I'm wondering more if it's something that happens incrementally and never finishes, I'd say I aspire more torward mystical experiences rather than 'enlightenment', although I'm not sure about the definition of either.<br />I was curious about what you said in your post 'So most of the time I see Dave as just Dave, but some of the time I experience him as something else,and at those times it occurs to me that this is the real Dave I am seeing' - is it like it seems there's no one there within him or something?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-52123121541461447152012-04-14T07:24:42.276-07:002012-04-14T07:24:42.276-07:00I suppose we are all fair game, but fictional char...I suppose we are all fair game, but fictional characters like JM doubly so. I didn't say I was serious about truth, but that I wasn't serious about anything else these days. Not the same claim, though even this one I make without certainty.<br /><br />Rest assured, no book is forthcoming, though I did post a review of JM's books at Amazon.<br /><br />Your accusatory-toned comment first suggests you have "figured it out" yourself - why else challenge someone for taking too long? - but then admits that you are just engaging in useless chit chat. In fact, it simmers with nihilistic despair!Jasunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645623536130682696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-78044968752583706972012-04-14T05:38:25.909-07:002012-04-14T05:38:25.909-07:00I wonder how much of your dialogue a la JM is an a...I wonder how much of your dialogue a la JM is an attempt to be 'serious about getting to the truth' and how much of it is a ruse to accumulate data for some forthcomong book/essay about gurus etc. Maybe because JM seems like something of a trickster himself he seems like fair game to you. Not that I think there's anything wrong with either motivation, but maybe you're kidding yourself about being 'serious about truth' because if you really were, you might have figured it out already for yourself by now. JM seems quite attached to useless chit/chat imo. But then I guess so am I, and this is life, which has to be filled with something..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-87200578794640878722012-04-13T16:08:53.707-07:002012-04-13T16:08:53.707-07:00Nihhilistic despair makes you feel "oddly opt...Nihhilistic despair makes you feel "oddly optimistic".<br />That's a good sign, Jasun!<br /><br />coast that . . .<br />You are exactly where you need to be right now.<br />Your nervous / chakra system needs some down time. Nourish you body, rest your mind.Theofiliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01672972031937849741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-60492864886723729992012-04-13T15:43:07.453-07:002012-04-13T15:43:07.453-07:00correction. I thought the other Mckenna was being ...correction. I thought the other Mckenna was being referred to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-57978669310863995352012-04-13T15:34:50.792-07:002012-04-13T15:34:50.792-07:00Even Mckenna fudged his date by a couple of weeks ...Even Mckenna fudged his date by a couple of weeks or something. so it is said anyway. <br />I don't want to live in a world where opinion overrides comfort or even indulgence. Comfort is basic. We learn from the Buddha that ostairity ends up being pointless if you have enough years to throw at it and the balls to turn away from years of being invested in some "mad" pursuit. Scared of death, sure this is basic too. Shapes all corporate beings, sure that too. These are not facts by rite but by experience. Being stuck between heaven and earth appears to be our lot as humans. It's all just talking about it until the next stage we gain access. The next stage where surely and inevitably the mysteries of the last stage are bible stories to the youth of the next. And a new set of maybes and talking about it emerge. Just seems a waste if no one is enjoying themselves at any stage, given that they strive for the unknowable. Tartain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-51562227032050712202012-04-13T10:25:25.488-07:002012-04-13T10:25:25.488-07:00Lyc: I just posted some thoughts about McKenna ove...Lyc: I just posted some thoughts about McKenna over <a href="http://jedmckenna.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7580209-mckenna-s-monomania-and-other-questions?page=last" rel="nofollow">here</a><br /><br />K of C: I don't necessarily consider compassion another strand of the delusion (tho JM does), and I don't necessarily agree that most people only have compassion for themselves. On contrary, I think few of us do have compassion for ourselves, which is perhaps what makes compassion for others such a relief - but also, maybe, slightly bogus.<br /><br />Recognizing that compassion is seemingly as useless as anything else we can "do" but still having it and expressing it for others, and eventually for ourselves, frees up some part of ourselves from NEEDING that, so we can move beyond compassion, as we move beyond the idea of a self that needs it.<br /><br />In Spanish, compassion and pity are more or less interchangeable as words.Jasunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645623536130682696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-48809816950665046082012-04-13T02:37:37.610-07:002012-04-13T02:37:37.610-07:00I had an a moment while listening to Alan Watts, s...I had an a moment while listening to Alan Watts, something about how 'you are the whole universe expressing itself as you' and I thought why would the whole universe seek to experience something as goofy as me. But seeing myself from a distance I seemed perfectly as I inevitably had to be, unavoidable, unimaginable, and to think I could make myself anything different seemed absurd. I sometimes think that if I did not think I had freewill I would be 100% more relaxed. I suppose without the goofiness the world would be no where near so complexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-28895615770100531752012-04-12T23:27:17.426-07:002012-04-12T23:27:17.426-07:00see what happens...
when leading her on
be good le...see what happens...<br />when leading her on<br />be good leave whore<br />upset the applecart<br />no forced laughter,<br />smile or handshake,<br />judge me miserable,<br />my look shall pass.<br />middle way enforced<br />authentic as can be<br />genuine disposition<br />edo Jesus H. Christ<br />what's this feeling<br />fondness compassion<br />alien assimilation.<br />Thou does not micro<br />-manage this sim...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-91577835085685042972012-04-12T12:56:40.544-07:002012-04-12T12:56:40.544-07:00"Nihilistic despair has become the bass line ..."Nihilistic despair has become the bass line of my existence. I feel oddly optimistic about it."<br />Ha! Well, I enjoy the sound of your bass line, there's always humour in there somewhere and in my own slap bass despair.<br />Everything is everything... and oh so ridiculous to me.Twanghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnLfST5Avqsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-13895074140104250722012-04-12T11:25:05.216-07:002012-04-12T11:25:05.216-07:00"I think you have confused the ego with the c..."I think you have confused the ego with the collective unconscious."<br /><br />No such thing as an "ego" or the "collective unconscious" just more imaginary maps and menus that don't actually exist... sure tastes good though eh.Mmm... Menusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-26833033257414388402012-04-11T23:14:29.978-07:002012-04-11T23:14:29.978-07:00"Everything I do is dictated by a preference ..."Everything I do is dictated by a preference for comfort over discomfort. It is absurdly meaningless. The ego’s program is so pathetically base – what makes it pathetic is not the baseness but how it covers up that baseness with lofty ideals and blatant lies that anything we ever do is motivated by anything else besides a preference for comfort over discomfort. It is sickening in the extreme. The hypocrisy of it."<br /><br />I think you have confused the ego with the collective unconscious. They are intrinsically connected (and that connection needs to be made conscious if there is to be an escape route) but they are very different. If you are going to get rid of the ego then you are going to have to get rid of the collective unconscious. Good luck with that! I don't think that the hungriest of ghosts could get rid of the collective unconscious.Piney Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03387233795503099600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20312680.post-4487143404349705242012-04-11T22:02:14.571-07:002012-04-11T22:02:14.571-07:00What is this preoccupation with thinking that you ...What is this preoccupation with thinking that you have to get free of your ego?David Timmsnoreply@blogger.com